Kansas Women Seeking Abortion May Be Required to Listen to Fetal Heartbeat

Women iz dum bitches


When will pro-lifers figure out that their fake “informed consent” attacks on abortion are ineffective? And that their real agenda is totally transparent?

Get a load of this.

A group of both Republicans and Democrats today introduced a bill related to abortion.

They call it the “Woman’s Right to Know and See” bill.

It would require doctors who use a sonogram to provide a copy of that sonogram to a woman considering an abortion.

It would also require that the woman be allowed to hear the fetal heartbeat.

Reminds me of what went down last year in Oklahoma.

My inside sources tell me that the slimy culprit behind this travesty is one Lance Kinzer, a conservative Kansas State Representative from Olathe. He apparently was also behind a failed attempt to repeal domestic partnerships in Lawrence, KS. Great pedigree.

My anonymous source commented: “So today he introduced the “Woman’s Right to Know and See” bill in the statehouse here in Kansas, which is just appalling. It pretty much forces, by law, doctors who are going to perform abortions in Kansas to take a sonogram, and show it to the woman. But oh no! It doesn’t stop there! This bill would ALSO FORCE (by law!!) the woman to listen to the fetus’ heartbeat. Just in case she wants to change her mind.”

According to anti-abortion websites, 16 states already have some of this breed of “Women’s Right to Know” legislation, including Pennsylvania, Georgia, Louisiana, Minnesota, Texas, Florida and Missouri. (Haven’t found a full list yet.) These laws are sold as “informed consent” for women seeking abortion.

“Folks who are pro-life and even folks who are pro-choice can agree on something, and that is that no one should have an abortion without having full and accurate information about the status of their pregnancy,” said Representative Lance Kinzer, who introduced the bill.

I believe that women should be fully informed about their options and the health and economic effects of all their choices. But in that I differ from Kinzer, who just doesn’t want women to have abortions at all. Who really thinks that women are so stupid that they don’t know what an abortion is? Who could possibly have escaped the incredibly shrill pro-life propaganda that saturates America? No woman chooses abortion without reflection. To claim that women are literally too dumb to understand that abortion is the removal of a fetus is insulting. He shows no interest in making sure women are “fully informed” about the effects of pregnancy and childbirth, which are proven to have significantly more serious health effects than abortion. I wonder why?

Women’s Right to Know laws are simply vehicles to legally coerce women to delay or decide against abortion- they are never supported by anyone who believes in a woman’s right to choose. There is no other medical procedure treated in this special manner, yet there is no stink about people getting their tonsils out without ‘informed consent’ or having breast augmentation without ‘informed consent’.

But Kinzer has struck upon a new fake Women’s Right to Know tactic: previously, such tactics have involved forcing doctors to read anti-abortion statements they disagree with to their patients, giving women anti-abortion written material, forcing women to review images of fetuses at different stages in development, and showing women ultrasound or sonogram images of their pregnancy. Kinzer has struck upon something new here with this fetal heartbeat business. The ONLY reason he would push this coercive and condescending measure into law would be as another attempt to interfere with and shame women who choose abortion.

Sick bastards over there in the Kansas State congress.

h/t Fally

UPDATE: More news coverage in Kansas today.

Lawrence-Journal World

Kansas City Star

13 thoughts on “Kansas Women Seeking Abortion May Be Required to Listen to Fetal Heartbeat

  1. Someone mentioned something interesting to me. What if a deaf and blind woman wants to get an abortion? Then this bill is pretty useless to her, eh? ;-)

  2. Wouldn’t governor Sebelius veto this, since according to Wikipedia she was endorsed by Planned Paranthood and vetoed abortion legislation four times? Even if there is a veto-proof majority, perhaps she could make a stand or something.

  3. Yeah, well this cuckoo bill will hopefully never see the light of day. I can’t imagine it being approved even in Kansas’ House and Senate. And even if it is, I’m sure we could depend on Sebelius to put the kibosh down.

  4. And judging by the comments on the story, people seem to be liking the idea of this bill. When I expressed my disappointment after reading those comments, someone scolded me with the “yeah, what do you expect? It’s Kansas!” attitude, but this is not the Kansas I know. I love Kansas. Love it. And I know that deep down inside, Kansans love you right back, regardless of who you are. As long as you don’t try and pull their leg and bullshit them around, they’re happy letting you be just who you are. As someone who has traveled the state happily from corner to dented corner, I can most assuredly say Kansas is wonderful.

  5. AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! It’s like you’re in CRAZYLAND over there.

    I agree Kansas is wonderful- usually.

    “As long as you don’t try and pull their leg and bullshit them around, they’re happy letting you be just who you are.”

    Yeah, when they aren’t legally mandating that you listen to fetal heart beats.

    BTW I’m gonna see if the LJWorld has anything on this tomorrow.

  6. this is exactly why i believe that if you do not have a vagina or a uterus, you’re not allowed to tell me what to do with mine. i don’t tell men what to do with their penises. this is just another example of some asshole who decided that women shouldn’t be treated as equals and reinforcing his patriarchy by forcing women into this sort of thing. ugh.

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  9. Women talk about pro choice…..how they should be allowed the right to make a choice about aborting…….but do they admit to how they already made their choice? Every women chooses to open her legs and not be protected…that was your choice now deal with it.

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  11. Granted this story comes from the Missouri side of the border but I wonder if “…” thinks that “Every women chooses to open her legs and not be protected…that was your choice now deal with it.”? If that is true, under your logic we should convict the victim in this case and perhaps elect her parents to be state representatives? After all it was the victim (as not just a woman but every woman) who chose to open her legs. Perhaps you should consider a move to Afganistan, I hear they are desperatly short on representational government, and I hear the Taliban throw a great spring mixer, as we are about to discover once again.


    On a side note, I would like to personally thank both women who willfully opened their legs for me. and on a side side note: although I disagree with many opinions aired in our culture today I would fight for everybodies right to express themselves, no matter how big of a tard they are.

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